"It's a good practice in not having expectations. Often I don't know how something's going to be or turn out, because there is that human element . . . It's like setting up a framework, with me not necessarily controlling how it's worked within."
"It's a good practice in not having expectations. Often I don't know how something's going to be or turn out, because there is that human element . . . It's like setting up a framework, with me not necessarily controlling how it's worked within."